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Ok anti-gun nuts, the jig is up.  We know you are trying to take the guns, we know you want the Second Amendment destroyed.   The Democrats and Moss Covered Washed Up RINO's want to see the second amendment destroyed and they are taking steps to see to it that it happens.

Universal background checks will not keep guns out of the hands of criminals.  Anyone who says otherwise simply does not understand how the black market operates. Such policy has never worked for drugs. Drug prohibition has cost the tax payers over a trillion dollars.  Just because a gun can kill and marijuana can't is not a good argument as a reason to claim drug prohibition and further gun regulations as not being the same thing. Drugs are what fuels the violence in the streets.  Universal background checks will not keep the GUNS out of the HANDS of criminals regardless if guns can be used to kill and marijuana can't. Guns being able to kill someone as a reason for the universal background checks is irrelevant, as this does not stop the criminals from purchasing the firearms. Any deterrence will be arbitrary at best and not deter firearm purchases among criminals. If criminals want the guns, they will get them.

The only effect universal background checks could possibly have on the black market is driving up prices. Even if there were no shortage of guns, the criminals selling guns would capitalize on the propaganda and unseen lies to their buyers telling them "prices went up because of the universal background checks.'  Illegal arms dealers would do this in the same way the oil companies speculate prices and drive cost per barrel up for no real reason other then an occurrence like a "hurricane" which the speculators use as a means to say "sorry, there was a hurricane, so prices go up."

Also, if prices on guns go up, CRIME GOES UP, because CRIMINALS get their money from COMMITTING CRIME.  More expensive guns equals MORE CRIME.  Do you really think a gang banger is not going to get a gun?  The criminals will be more vicious and determined to attain the funds required for the increase in price for firearms.

Something of note. Gun murder rates are down. ***Source: Congressional Research Service [link]


Another chart worth viewing. This below chart shows deaths by Rifle in 2010: 358, and in 2011: 323.  The FBI lumps all deaths caused by rifles, which means that deaths caused by 'assault weapons' is even lower then this chart shows. Infact, murders at the result of assault weapons is less then 0.12% More people were killed with hands and feet then they were with assault weapons in 2010 and 2011. ***Source: FBI Murder Statistics [link]



Less then 0.12% of deaths in 2011 were committed by assault weapons [link] , yet these particular guns are a hot topic.

Nonetheless, the so-called "assault weapons" were tied to less than .012 percent of overall deaths in America in recent years (2011) according to studies compiled by criminology professors Chris Koper and Jeff Roth.

Under the auspices of the National Institute of Justice, the criminologists also report that the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban (AWB) "had a demonstrably small impact on overall crime in our country.



Violent crime has gone down(just not in cities like New York and Chicago where there are strict gun regulations) ***FBI Uniform Crime Reports [link]


Chicago has some of the strictest gun regulations in the country. Since Chicago has initiated its handgun ban crime with handguns has gone up.


Now lets take a look at a graph from the DOJ showing while gun sales have increased crime has gone down.



This idea that citizens do not need guns is ridiculous.  The figures below show guns were used in self defense against a violent crime 62,200 times, which makes up 1% of all victims of such crimes.  Imagine if more people had guns to protect themselves, yet the anti-gun nuts want to get rid of the guns.

According to BJS, NCVS data from 1987 to 1992 indicate that in each of those years, roughly
62,200 victims of violent crime (1% of all victims of such crimes) used guns to defend
themselves.46 Another 20,000 persons each year used guns to protect property. Persons in the
business of self-protection (police officers, armed security guards) may have been included in the
survey.47 Another source of information on the use of firearms for self-defense is the National
Self-Defense Survey conducted by criminology professor Gary Kleck of Florida State University
in the spring of 1993. Citing responses from 4,978 households, Dr. Kleck estimated that handguns
had been used 2.1 million times per year for self-defense, and that all types of guns had been used
approximately 2.5 million times a year for that purpose during the 1988-1993 period.48

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Many anti-gun nuts I discuss this issue with are not even aware of what the debate is about.  I can not tell you how many times someone brought up "fully automatic weapons."  Fully automatic weapons are not what is being debated, the debate is semi-automatic. The anti-gun nuts are ignorant to the difference between the weapons in the debate, meaning they do not even know what they are debating.  Then there is gun grabbers like Diana Degette who have no idea the different between a magazine and a bullet.  And let us not forget Joe Biden telling people to fire shotguns out their windows and doors into RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. [link]  THESE PEOPLE ARE INSANE. This is the same administration that was caught selling guns to the Mexican Mafia. Guns which were used in the murders of kids, while the obama administration exploits the deaths of the 20 children from Sandy Hook. [link]</b>

Fast and Furious Guns Used in Infamous Massacre

Mexican military reports show that at least three guns from North America were used in the Salvarcar massacre in 2010. A total of 15 people died in that incident, most of them teens. They were gunned down by the Juarez cartel, which mistook the group for rival Sinaloa cartel members. According to one document, the weapons entered Mexico illegally through a border point near Columbus, New Mexico.


While the government is gun grabbing, the DHS is purchasing over 2 billion hollow point bullets(enough bullets to wage an Iraq equivalent war for more then 20 years), 2,700 armored vehicle, and 7,000 fully automatic weapons. [link] and an economy controlled by banking cartels  turning this country into a fascist nation [link]

Many of these anti-gun nuts are completely ignorant to this whole debate and have no idea how guns work nor do they understand the black market.  

Something very important in all this is psychotropic drugs.  All of these mass shooters were deranged and this is barely being discussed!  James Holmes and Adama Lanza were on psychotropic drugs known to cause violent behavior and suicide! Why is that getting so little attention, yet assault weapons and further regulations is all you hear the anti-gun nuts ever talk about!


It's not a gun problem. It's a  pharmaceutical companies over prescribing drugs known to cause suicide and violent behavior and deranged sicko's problem
Canadian judge rules SSRI antidepressants like Prozac can cause children to commit murder:  [link]
Antidepressant Use in Children, Adolescents, and Adults: [link]
SSRIStories.com: [link]
Antidepressants & SSRIs: [link]
Pharmageddon: America's bitter pill: [link]
What Does a 400% Increase in Antidepressant Use Really Mean?: [link]
Antidepressants - nation's top prescription: [link]
Study reveals preschoolers fastest growing segment to be prescribed anti-depressants: [link]


And lets us not forget veterans are beginning to be targeted to have their guns taken away.  [link] Also, Feinsteins claim that "PTSD is new" [link]

Universal background checks are a 'feel good' approach that solves NOTHING.

Tactics the left wing is using to pave the way for a gun ban
1. Proposing taxes and requiring gun owners to purchase million dollar liability insurance.(In New York, but as we have seen when New York or Connecticut proposes something, other states jump on the gun grabbing bandwagon.)

2. Executive orders that turn doctors into snitches fearing they will go to jail if they do not report someone to police who ends up shooting someone. This will result in psychiatrists who will report a patient for being potentially dangerous, not because they think the patient is dangerous, but because the doctor will be saving their own asses. These executive orders are very easy to abuse as well.

3. Exploiting tragedies like Sandy Hook, including using children and vulnerable grieving parents as props(If a parent had a kid killed by a shark, a sneaky politician could get that parent to go on national TV  and have the parent ask for an outlaw of all aquatic animals with sharp teeth)

4. Demonizing all Gun owners, the NRA, Veterans, White people, Conservatives(not neocons) and Libertarians, and accusing us of being responsible for Sandy Hook.

5. Trying to make all who oppose the gun grabbing to be "crazy" and "paranoid."

6. Using words like "common sense" when the anti-gun nuts proposals are anything but 'common sense' and do not solve the problem.

7. Using hollywood to sway public opinion.

8. Giving the false belief that universal background checks will keep guns from the hands of criminals(it won't)

9.  Viewing the average citizen as a potential terrorist or mass shooter, and being over reactive about nothing(kids getting suspended from school for poptarts, women gets guns taken away for reading constitution.)

10. Using spambots on the internet to give the illusion more people support further gun regulations then actually do.


Mark Dice Poses as Anti-Gun nut and asks Liberals if they want an outright gun ban with door to door gun confiscations...and all but two people says YES: [link]
Sack of shit Bill Maher calls the second amendment bullshit: [link]
Diane Feinstein says in she wants an outright gun ban: [link]
Diane Degette thinks magazines are bullets: [link]
16 Moss Covered RINO's Join the DemoRATS to destroy gun rights: [link]
Texas Democrat Brags Openly About Gun Confiscation Plan: [link]
Proposed bill would force gun owners in NY to buy atleast 1 million dollar liability insurance: [link]
In 1995 Video, Eric Holder Says We Need To 'Really Brainwash People' Against Guns: [link]
More people killed with hammers and clubs: [link]
Purge against veterans owning firearms: [link]
VA Unconstitutionally Tries To Disarm Veterans: [link]
Ex-Marine put in psych ward over Facebook posts[link]
NJ women has guns confiscated for reading constitution: [link]
Woman reads Constitution; has guns confiscated: [link]

Just to prove Liberals, Hippies, Progressives will sign and support issues without knowing what the hell it is or what it means...Here is a video of anti-gun nut idiots signing a petition TO BAN WATER: [link]


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:iconkajm:
*Kajm 3 days ago  Hobbyist Writer
Sicklebug really has a high opinion of himself and his arguments, doesn't he?
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:iconflipswitchmandering:
He has absolutely no understanding..Not one liberal I have debated with understands their "manbearpig" global warming monster.

They are so stuck on CO2 as if thats the only heat trapping gas...They love trees, but hate unborn children..They are sick, full of propaganda from authoritarian liberals.
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*Kajm 3 days ago  Hobbyist Writer
Unfortunately, it is going to take decades to undo that indoctrination- and hundreds of millions are going to suffer for it.
When he is getting up to my age and we are in the middle of a cooling cycle, possibly one as bad as the LIA (and possibly lasting just as long), he'll still think he 'won' the argument with me.
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=SophieSuffocate May 6, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You know, this is an art site and I'm finding everything you post to be something I'd find on Tumblr.

I'm NOT trying to dis you but perhaps I suggest you look into Tumblr? I think your messages would be viewed more and what not.

Just a thought.
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I am not trying to dis you, but you should look into the fact this is an art site and you are telling me I should stop posting my thoughts. If you don't like what I post, dont read it, why do you think you write the rules on what can be posted here? I dont care if you like what I post, what you think is not relevant to me, and I dont say that as an insult...I am asking you, who the hell are you?

As you said...What I post is on Tumblr...it is not as common here, and thats why I am here.
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=SophieSuffocate May 8, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No need to get your undies in a bunch. I wasn't telling you to LEAVE. I have no opinion on you post or what your views are, I was just saying you try a blog because you would get more views.

You obviously have an issue with anyone even talking to you, even when they are just trying to be helpful. >:I SO BLEH.
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upon rereading your first post, I see you are right, you really werent being a dick.

I have seen what you posted so many times here before, except telling me to leave.

But, your last line about the getting more views changes everything. sorry.
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~scythemantis Apr 21, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
You would benefit from reading my own posts on climate change - I tear Kajm a new e-hole at every turn. He's a joke.
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:iconflipswitchmandering:
If there is no global warming, there is no funding or income from those who perpetuate the lie that is global warming created by man.
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~scythemantis Apr 21, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
And how about reading my recent journals? They link to a wealth of explanation on this subject. That humans have an influence on climate is -PAINFULLY- obvious and undeniable to anyone who understands the most basic rules of physics and chemistry. It's a no-brainer. The "lie" is the insane, impossible fairy tale that we can't or don't have such an impact.
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